2005-05-24 [FireGypsy]: the vampires these people claim to be arent the ones your thinking of. They are just humans, no supernatural powers involved. Its just a fetish. There is no immortality, no undeath, no flying, no nothing. Just a fetish for blood in a way. So consider vampirism a label, just like goth, hippie, nerd, prep. Its all the same. Just a different lifestyle than your used to. And this is not addressed to anyone in particular either.

2005-05-24 [xXnightmare cuntXx]: Please...peace...have peace and stop this senseless fighting save it for real battles that are soon to come

2005-05-24 [Whim]: against the werewolves?

2005-05-24 [xXnightmare cuntXx]: against all that are against us

2005-05-24 [Whim]: like werewolves?

2005-05-24 [xXnightmare cuntXx]: yes and gegans and the like

2005-05-24 [Whim]: are those a type of werewolf?

2005-05-24 [xXnightmare cuntXx]: sorta its hard to expalin all the bloods mix and different things yield....for instance I am a vampire and a witch....my friend is vampire witch and lycan(werewolf)

2005-05-24 [Whim]: hmmm...you are your friend may possibly be able to live for now, but once the cleansing times come, you had best find shelter. I can’t guarentee your safety.

2005-05-24 [xXnightmare cuntXx]: I already am hunted and my sire is dead...she was very very old....it makes me sad....but I must already gaurd myself and those I love....the cleansing is dirtied by old men who are clueless in their motives

2005-05-24 [xXnightmare cuntXx]: into hiding I will never go I will fight tillthe very end

2005-05-24 [Whim]: Then you will surely be destroyed.

2005-05-24 [Katherine]: jeez. why does everyone have to be so fucking stereotypical. goth and vampyrism have nowt in common, we are all smart enough to know that ^^ okay raine. one - i cut to feed others. the significance of that statement is im not stupid enough to harm myself anyway apart from that. i have two doners, with whom which i alternate months with. it was a statement of fact, not a seek for attention. two - stating it, and stating what i am and do is not and cannot be attention seeking in this wiki, as all here who claim to be so called vampyres with of course find it the norm. ^^ three - sharing blood is not bad, as long as you take precautions. i would say drugs, sex and fags are bad >>>

2005-05-24 [Katherine]: and i do none of those. or alcohol. yet people seem to think its social and okay. just an opinion, i guess. as whim said, did you even scan the bit about sanguine vampyres? i am not sanguine, but i indulge in blood letting because it is a morbid hobby of mine. live with it. self harm is bad for you, bet youve had your fair share in it and thought it justified. four - i belive vampyres are humans, with extra bits on them. five - goth and vampyrism have jack all in common. six - if you do not belive, how could you understand. seven - it is indeed non-fiction. yet, many things are non fiction that i refuse to belive. it is your choice to or not. and eight - if you have such a big problem >>>

2005-05-24 [Katherine]: with everything here, then take it somewhere else, becuase, when it boils down, what you say is not going to change what we are, or in some cases belive we are, most people one here are indeed poseurs or plain nightwalkers. please not though, that the member list isnt a list of so called vampyres, it is just a member list. so, dont shout if it gets you so stressed and respect others opinions. the end. with no offence intended. ^^ anyway, where were we?

2005-05-24 [iCh3wi]: Hmmmm, I can't really remember. I'll start the new conversation! How is everyones day?

2005-05-24 [Katherine]: mine is rather good actually, and yours?

2005-05-24 [iCh3wi]: Somewhat good. Last week of school. I am only coming this week because I have nothing better to do. I am exempt from all my finals.

2005-05-24 [RabidSphinx]: my day is just fine thank you very much

2005-05-24 [Katherine]: lol, im on work experience. its actually fun.

2005-05-24 [RabidSphinx]: and nymphette, i never accused you of seeking attention for bloodletting, merely pointed out that it was sick.

2005-05-24 [Katherine]: sorry, i just got that impression. i thought you did. ah well, maybe it was something else. and my rant wasnt merely aimed at you, just people in general. no offence taken?

2005-05-24 [RabidSphinx]: only slight.

2005-05-24 [FireGypsy]: (not generalized toward anyone)so cutting yourself because your depressed and the pain feels good is okay but cutting yourself to let others drink your blood isnt?

2005-05-24 [RabidSphinx]: i never think it's okay. i personally am against cutting for any reason. bloodletting is sick and wrong (and not healthy for you or who drinks the blood).

2005-05-24 [Whim]: But self-burning is fine. No blood involved, right?

2005-05-24 [RabidSphinx]: nope...burning is wrong too...self-harm=bad

2005-05-24 [Katherine]: good, im just expressing opinions. i thought you were the one who said that in the first place. or was it a statement?

2005-05-24 [Whim]: Sounds like a simple lack of compassion.

2005-05-24 [RabidSphinx]: it was just a statment...but i have to go now...daddy is threatening...ba-bye.....

2005-05-24 [FireGypsy]: sounds like hypocricy....

2005-05-24 [RabidSphinx]: sounds like someone who did wrong and learned a lesson from it...now bye

2005-05-24 [Whim]: Which makes the compassion bit fairly accurate.

2005-05-24 [Katherine]: who did something wrong? and learned?

2005-05-24 [Katherine]: and one small point to raine, before she leaves - why if you are so against it, does a lot of your art promote self destruction, of both a physical and mental nature?

2005-05-25 [xXnightmare cuntXx]: Destroyed???*sounds amused* I'd like to see you try asshole

2005-05-25 [Whim]: Don't fight it. Just accept your fate.

2005-05-25 [iCh3wi]: *sighs* I hate all of this fighting. It's fine when people are debating, but when name calling and accusitions start to get involved, it just makes things worse.

2005-05-25 [Whim]: Eh, it happens. You can't really avoid it, so just embrace it.

2005-05-25 [iCh3wi]: I won't "embrace it". But, it is inevitable.

2005-05-25 [Whim]: But to embrace it means that you can mold it into something more appropriate.

2005-05-25 [*_*]: hey

2005-05-25 [iCh3wi]: Ok, sorry Whim, I took what you said the wrong way. I thought you meant somehting else. Yes, I guess I could take it and mold it into something new, but then I might get accused of, oh what was it? "stereotypical goth vampyr".

2005-05-25 [Whim]: So? You're in a "stereotypical goth vampyr" wiki. You've probably already been accused...hehe.

2005-05-25 [iCh3wi]: Yup, I was accused by Raine while you and her were having an argument about Masochist's. Oh well, I'm use to being called that. (Personally I think it's the fact that I like to wear black fishnets to scare people)

2005-05-25 [Whim]: probably. But the irony is rainedrop is a total goth too. She just happens to a very conservative goth...lol.

2005-05-25 [iCh3wi]: Lolol, conservative goth, I find that funny. Just curious Whim, are you a Bush supporter? I'm just wondering, I'm not gonna judge you or anything like that.

2005-05-25 [*_*]: i am in the midle i voted for nater lol

2005-05-25 [Whim]: I'm not especially for or against him. I think he's trying to do a good job, but I also think he's just doing his own thing at the same time and then acting dumb about it in public. Really he's not doing anything worse than any other president. He just happens to be doing the wrong things at the wrong time.

2005-05-25 [iCh3wi]: Thats good, you have your own opinions and veiws, and I respect it when people express themselves and don't conform to what others do.

2005-05-25 [Whim]: I almost liked John Kerry better to a point, but something about him just seems very untrustworthy. Of course, I don't trust bush any more...hehe. I hate all this democrat/republican stuff. It keeps us divided into a "good" vs. "evil" society when the world isn't that black and white.

2005-05-25 [iCh3wi]: THANK GOD!! I have finally found someone who agrees with my veiwpoint of the Republican/Democratic ways of our days.

2005-05-25 [Whim]: Well, it's true. I don't mind when we're divided on certain issues, but it's stupid to be divided on such broad political preference. And I really hate the fact that we're constantly having to choose between one greedy millionaire or another greedy millionaire. We've had very few presidents in our history who could rightfully be considered our peers, which means they can't possibly be speaking for the common man because they really don't understand anything about the common man.

2005-05-25 [iCh3wi]: That is true, we do go from another rich candidate/President to another rich candidate/President. I my opinion, the my favorite politicians have been Ronald Reagan because of how he could "level" with the common people. My other's are Thomas Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln. The way they hoped to shape a better nation for the future leaders (us) and the hope of creating a safe place greatly inspries me too reach my goals.

2005-05-25 [Whim]: Yeah, Abe Lincoln was probably the best. This would probably be a slightly better country had he not been shot.

2005-05-25 [iCh3wi]: Ooops, forgot one other. He may be some overrated, but I feel he had good intentions for the future of our nation, President John F. Kennedy.

2005-05-25 [Whim]: yeah, but I think he does get overrated simply because he made some obviously good choices at the right times. Plus he was very charismatic so people were always happy to listen to him.

2005-05-25 [iCh3wi]: And, the unforntunate fact that he was assasinated just made him more popular, and a little overrated.

2005-05-25 [Whim]: yeah, any time someone dies before their time, they get overly popular for no good reason and then people start calling them the best at what they do even if they were just mediocre.

2005-05-25 [RabidSphinx]: i'm back....maybe...

2005-05-25 [*_*]: hey all hugs

2005-05-25 [RabidSphinx]: ello

2005-05-25 [*_*]: whats going on

2005-05-25 [RabidSphinx]: nothing much. just working on my website

2005-05-25 [*_*]: kool whats the name send it to me inmy house

2005-05-25 [iCh3wi]: I dont wanna be a fishie, I dont wanna be a duck so kiss my butt :)

2005-05-25 [Katherine]: making websites are fun. ^^ especially when they are free!

2005-05-25 [*_*]: ok lol true

2005-05-25 [Amalaswinta]: true indeed... had a lotta fun making mine :-D

2005-05-25 [Katherine]: i have about ten lol

2005-05-25 [FireGypsy]: do you guys know any really goof free sites to make your own site? All the ones i found are crappy.

2005-05-25 [Amalaswinta]: wouldn't know, I just built my own site using Macromedia Flash MX, using the webspace provided by my ISP

2005-05-25 [FireGypsy]: sounds complex.....

2005-05-26 [Amalaswinta]: not really, the basics of Flash aren't that hard to learn, it's just when you want to take it a step further (like I did) you have to get into actionscripting (which to me was a lotta fun actually)

2005-05-26 [RabidSphinx]: mine isn't free..i bought my domain

2005-05-26 [Amalaswinta]: as did I :-)

2005-05-26 [RabidSphinx]: my site sucks at the moment...but i will have a new layout soon, and more stuff up and running, like my page about me...and i'll add more chapters of my writing and all that...

2005-05-26 [Amalaswinta]: I don't know, it doesn't look too bad...

2005-05-26 [RabidSphinx]: it sucks

2005-05-26 [Amalaswinta]: okay, if you say so

2005-05-26 [RabidSphinx]: i do say so. i'm not happy with my site at all

2005-05-28 [Katherine]: i use tripod ^^ oh yeah! \m/ *headbangs like a kid*

2005-05-30 [shardae le fae]: WEEEE!!! *HEADBANGS* WEEEEEE!!!

2005-05-30 [Katherine]: yes yes, its so crappy and fun!

2005-06-06 [iCh3wi]: Woh! It's been quit here for way to long, WHATS UP?!?!?!?!

2005-06-06 [FireGypsy]: nothin much!

2005-06-06 [iCh3wi]: New wiki!!!! Cutters Poetry

2005-06-06 [FireGypsy]: ill check it out =)

2005-06-06 [iCh3wi]: okies

2005-06-06 [shardae le fae]: I'll check it out too

2005-06-08 [Angeldust]: I want to be a member

2005-06-08 [FireGypsy]: just edit the page and add yourself

2005-06-09 [shardae le fae]: *sighs* I feel like crap

2005-06-12 [FireGypsy]: yeah, i feel like shit, my eyes hurt so bad right now.

2005-06-12 [Amalaswinta]: what's wrong with your eyes sugar?

2005-06-13 [FireGypsy]: I have really bad Flashburn in my eyes from welding without a helmet. I had to go to the hospital at 2:30 in the morning and was there for 5 hours because i woke up in so much pain that i couldnt even open my eyes. You have no idea how bad they hurt last night. It felt like someone stabbed my eyes with needles and then poured sand in them and you cant do anything about it. It was really bad. They gave me a shot of Morphine and a Vikadin and a prescription of Perks.

2005-06-13 [shardae le fae]: hmm..I would've asked for a stock pile of it all

2005-06-13 [Amalaswinta]: aaaaw.... now why did you go welding without a helmet??? you know you shouldn't do that... I hope you're feeling a bit better now??? *huggles*

2005-06-13 [shardae le fae]: me too

2005-06-13 [FireGypsy]: lol well i couldnt see what i was welding with the helmet on and i didnt want to mess up what i was doing to i ditched the helmet for a few munites. Im feeling much better now. I have no put this goopy antibiotic stuff in my eyes and makes everything blurry lol. My eyes dont hurt anymore but now i just feel nauseous and dizzy all the time. And thankies *hugglez* =)

2005-06-13 [shardae le fae]: *hugglez everyone* well I am glad you have goopy stuffz

2005-06-14 [FireGypsy]: yeah me too i guess even though when i put it in my eyes everything is blurry and my makeup comes off =D

2005-06-14 [shardae le fae]: lol...well that's what you get i guess?

2005-06-14 [FireGypsy]: yup =D

2005-06-14 [shardae le fae]: *dances around*

2005-06-15 [iCh3wi]: *stares from perch on headstone*

2005-06-16 [shardae le fae]: *feels sick* god I feel horrible

2005-06-16 [iCh3wi]: you feel horrible? its 3 in the morning where im at and im sick

2005-06-16 [shardae le fae]: I am on my horrible killing period

2005-06-16 [FireGypsy]: I had the wierdiest dream last night...... I drempt that Zombies were starting to come along and were attacking people and everyone was being turned and the only way to prevent the spread of the zombie virus in you was to eat saltwater taffy. Like holy shit wtf?!?!?! I think its a sign that i should go buy a lot of salt water taffy. Or maybe that someome i know is a zombie and zombies are going to start taking over the world.....

2005-06-16 [iCh3wi]: OOPPS! I feel stupid, sorry shardae.

2005-06-16 [Katherine]: well im off for some saltwater taffy then!

2005-06-17 [shardae le fae]: lol...it's fine crowe..don't feel stupid

2005-06-17 [iCh3wi]: Okies then. Well, today is my last day of punishment thank god!

2005-06-17 [shardae le fae]: I see..I'm having problems

2005-06-17 [iCh3wi]: Why?

2005-06-17 [shardae le fae]: step dad i think is back on drugs and he took the phone with him..if my mom isn't here by 11 I am going to go and run to my dad's house..

2005-06-17 [iCh3wi]: O. Im sorry.

2005-06-17 [shardae le fae]: yeah well i'm fine

2005-06-22 [FireGypsy]: wow O_O 76 members

2005-06-22 [iCh3wi]: Yup yup. And just imagine this. When I joined, there were only 5 members.

2005-06-23 [shardae le fae]: hehe i joined at 58!

2005-06-23 [iCh3wi]: lolol.

2005-06-23 [Solitiaum]: 42 here ^_^

2005-06-23 [iCh3wi]: Hey Kate.

2005-06-23 [Solitiaum]: hey ^_^

2005-06-23 [*_*]: hey all long time no see

2005-06-23 [iCh3wi]: Hey, never seen you but who cares, Hi!

2005-06-23 [shardae le fae]: hello!

2005-06-23 [iCh3wi]: hello

2005-06-23 [shardae le fae]: how's everyone?

2005-06-23 [*_*]: well i am single sad about it um,mm geting kiked out soon looking for a place too live umm wish i had a room mate but yeah umm working on wicca more hate my job lol sorry ill stop now

2005-06-23 [shardae le fae]: i see

2005-06-23 [*_*]: yeah.............

2005-06-23 [shardae le fae]: my leg huwts

2005-06-23 [*_*]: o ok well thats sucks i guse

2005-06-23 [shardae le fae]: yeah

2005-06-23 [*_*]: hey any one like some jack ?

2005-06-23 [kdfjhg]: hmmmm?

2005-06-26 [Lashana]: I know there are those here who aren't just vampires, and I would really appreciate it if any weres (or therians, if you prefer) would visit my wiki and tell me if they think my information accurately portrays therianthropy. All I know is what I feel and what I have read, and I'd like a review. Real~Werecreatures Thanks.

2005-06-27 [shardae le fae]: okay

2005-06-28 [This is a Deleted Account]: Hey can i join? i could have sworn i already had though but i dont see my name. O well, can I?

2005-06-28 [shardae le fae]: i think you can?

2005-06-28 [This is a Deleted Account]: okay, thnx

2005-06-28 [FireGypsy]: anyone can join, just go add your name =)

2005-06-29 [iCh3wi]: Unfortunately Lashana, I am only part Vampyre, and part human. But, I think I might join your wiki to learn more of the Lycan trait, therefore I can better understand the conflicts between Vamps and Weres.

2005-06-29 [iCh3wi]: Hmmmmm, I am gonna create a members page because we are growing to large and we need to seperate in pages to help save on memory space.

2005-06-29 [FireGypsy]: I think the conflicts between vamps and weres has faded. Its a lost cause now =)

2005-06-29 [iCh3wi]: Oh well, I joined the wiki, and created some banners. I guess I will just wait and see. At least for now it's peaceful here. Do you like the members page?

2005-06-29 [FireGypsy]: its a very well made wiki. =)

2005-06-29 [iCh3wi]: Koolness

2005-06-29 [DimondEyes_666]: this is rather unique.. *sits in the shadows an ponders*....

2005-06-30 [This is a Deleted Account]: I liked it when there was a conflict *shrugs*

2005-06-30 [DimondEyes_666]: lol

2005-07-07 [.::SOPHIE::.]: heylo.

2005-07-08 [Malidar]: ok. bye.

2005-07-14 [Whim]: Can I link your wiki to mine? Real Humans

2005-07-14 [FireGypsy]: lol sure =)

2005-07-14 [Amalaswinta]: [Whim]: I'm horridly offended by the part about homosexuals. I take this as a personal attack! I'll report you to the guards for this!! oh no, wait... I am a guard... damn.. ehm... =P

2005-07-14 [Whim]: hehe...well, the bit about homosexuals isn't necessarily directed towards all homosexuals. I believe it to be quite possible for a man to have an odd attraction towards men or a women having the same attraction towards women. It's more directed at the people (mostly teens) who have suddenly decided they're bi in recent years just because it's become a popular way to rebel.

2005-07-14 [Amalaswinta]: hahahaha I know you weren't talking 'bout me sugar, was just teasin' ^_^

2005-07-14 [Whim]: lol...well, I might have been talking about you. Did you suddenly become a lesbian or bi because you were actually attracted to women or because you didn't feel accepted at some point in your life? It's really open to interpretation.

2005-07-14 [Amalaswinta]: that would really be the first option in my case. My first "true love" was my teacher from the first grade, yes, a woman. I can't remember ever being in love with a guy actually...

2005-07-14 [Amalaswinta]: In fact, given a choice, I'd probably choose being straight.. would've saved me sooooooooo much misery...

2005-07-14 [Whim]: hehe...well, there ya go. The wiki isn't really about declaring that anyone mentioned in the wiki is wrong, just that they should be themselves.

2005-07-14 [Amalaswinta]: couldn't agree more, you should never try to be something you're not, better to be who you are to the fullest :)

2005-07-14 [Whim]: exactly. So what my wiki is kind of saying is that it's odd that people are "awakened" or "out of the closet" or whatever at about the same age when everyone is confused and seeking ANY path to be accepted. So at the age of 14 or 15, you're starting to develop better reasoning skills so it's easy to misuse those new skills in such a way that would drive you down the wrong path--or just an unorthadox path. So in all cases, I think whatever path anyone has chosen--even if it is the right one for them--they choose it based on what has happened in their life, meaning--in my opinion--you're probably a lesbian because you just found much more comfort in girls than in boys throughout your life.

2005-07-14 [Amalaswinta]: nah, it's not a matter of finding comfort.. it's a matter of falling in love, and whether it's a guy or a gal doesn't matter, the raging hormones do =P

2005-07-14 [Whim]: hehe...well, I know that, but ultimately it all boils down to who you feel you're compatible with. Guys and girls are way different in their personalities and mannerisms in so many ways. At some point on some subconscious level, I believe you probably decided that guys just for whatever reason aren't as attractive to you. And then as you begin to accept this way of thought, you get more and more comfortable with the idea of being with a girl rather than a guy.

2005-07-15 [This is a Deleted Account]: Whim, I understand alot of what your saying but me being both a bisexual and a phy. HLV, the way that you word alot of that seems offensive. And the terms used seem somewhat immature. When I first read it i felt offended... more on the Bisexual topic than anything else.

2005-07-15 [Whim]: Well that's the fun thing about things I say. I purposely make it somewhat offensive because it attracts readers, but anyone who takes a moment to look past that will see the logic in what I'm saying and see that I very well may be right. It's a thought provoking series of comments and thoughts.

2005-07-15 [Whim]: And for the record, you probably should feel offended by the bi bit. I really do believe that people who are bi--especially teens--are bi because they either want to be hip or they want to have sex with anyone who will have them--to a point. Maybe not sex, necessarily but love or affection.

2005-07-15 [Amalaswinta]: [Whim]: you know I love you to death (on a purely platonical level hehe), but I totally disagree with you. Yes, there is a number of people out there who 'decide' to become gay or bi because it's "sooooo cool", but for most of the gays/bis it's not a choice, it's a matter of feeling. I even believe there's a huge number (although not many will admit to it) that'd rather be straight...

2005-07-15 [Whim]: I think that's true when it comes to mature adults and most males in most cases, but at the risk of sounding extremely biased, bisexualism in girls is extremely glamourized since nearly any male will openly admit to thinking two girls kissing is hot. So in an effort to seem more appealing--if only on a subconscious level--many teenage girls will experiment just to either see what all the fuss is about or to impress some guy. Then they find out they like it, cause like I said, it doesn't matter who or what touches you that way--it's gonna feel good to some extent.

2005-07-15 [Whim]: And while at one time it was a huge social crime to be gay, these days it really is becoming more and more of a fad amongst young people because it is all over TV and there's the gay marriage debates, so in an effort to seem more liberal--cause being liberal is cool too--young people will side with it and even experiment with it because in many places, being a liberal bicurious male or female is a huge act of rebellion.

2005-07-15 [Whim]: Of course, it should be noted that all this is based on what I've observed in the United States. Your country and setting may be entirely different, but I still stand by the fact that at some point a person does choose to be gay, even if it's only by accident. After you choose to be gay, however, it's hard to turn back so in most cases, once you're gay, you really are gay and that really is who you are, but at some point in your life, your subconscious did choose a path.

2005-07-15 [Amalaswinta]: and again I say, for most of 'us', it's not a choice. If it were a choice, I'd have chosen 'straight' long ago. Would've saved me a couple of trips to the hospital, namecalling, loss of 'friends' you name it...

2005-07-15 [Whim]: Well, the funny thing about my theory is that there's no way to prove it wrong and no way to prove it right since the decision a person makes takes place almost strictly in their subconscious. I'm against the idea that any of us are born with certain desires and urges other than our own instincts. Everything about your personality and who you are is built throughout your life based on subconscious descisions.

2005-07-15 [Whim]: And for the record, I don't mean at all to belittle any experience you had or blame you for being a lesbian. Yes, I'm saying in one way or another you chose that path, but like any decision, there's gonna be consequences and to become who you were meant to be, you do have to go through hell sometimes to do it and I respect that.

2005-07-15 [Amalaswinta]: *smoochie*

2005-07-15 [iCh3wi]: Woh! Hmmm............I claim illerteracy.

2005-07-15 [Amalaswinta]: hahahahaha.. no worries, that's just [Whim] and I finally back to our 'normal' way of disagreeing ;-)

2005-07-15 [Whim]: hehe...of course. Different type of disagreeing I'd say, though.

2005-07-15 [Amalaswinta]: definately ;-)

2005-07-15 [iCh3wi]: Most definitely, I even have a few topics I disagree upon, but I am staying quiet for now.

2005-07-15 [Whim]: Well, I think my purpose here is to have someone to disagree with. It doesn't matter to me whether anyone believes what I have to say or not, but I do hope that it helps people learn more about themselves. You can learn a lot about life when you can challenge your own beliefs.

2005-07-15 [iCh3wi]: Sounds reasonable. I like hearing debates, I can learn more about the people debating and decide which side I am more towards.

2005-07-16 [This is a Deleted Account]: [Whim] You Wrote:And for the record, you probably should feel offended by the bi bit. I really do believe that people who are bi--especially teens--are bi because they either want to be hip or they want to have sex with anyone who will have them--to a point. Maybe not sex, necessarily but love or affection.  In response to that, I agree. I know that I truly am, i swear and so is my best friend [Jane Senero] but once we came out and told our friends this year then all these other girls were like "Oh, so are we! We're Bi!", even if it got them negative attention, i think they felt it was better than none. So, I understand what ur saying and im sure that mostly u r right but not completely.Missing: </b>

2005-07-16 [This is a Deleted Account]: Because for me, and Jane im positive, it is not a choice. We cant help it. Maybe its an imbalance in hormones... we're not even sure. But we cant help it...

2005-07-16 [iCh3wi]: I use to consider myself Bi, but I gave up on it for some reason, I can't remember why. It was like back in the 9th grade before the Bi issue became real big. But it's weird, I never really was in to it, but now that I am not Bi anymore, I can sort of tell what people in my school are Gay or Straight. A lot of them which deny being gay but really are. Is that a normal thing, or am I just stupid?    To Enne: I have a question. My gf, who I love more than anything in the world, is Bi. It doesn't really bother me or anything, because I know she loves me and I love her. Is a person still considered Bi when dating a person of the opposite sex? I can't find an answer to this question.

2005-07-16 [Whim]: Well, I think you're bi if you like people of the same sex in a sexual way and people of the opposite sex too. What's sometimes troubling are the people who say they're bi, but show no interest at all in dating anyone of the same sex unless it's a completely unobtainable celebrity.

2005-07-17 [Katherine]: i agree. i am what many people consider as 'bi', but i know that i am not. i mean, i fancy and am sexually attracted to other females genuinly, but i would not consider having a relationship with any of them, unless it was purely of a sexual nature. not because im 'scared' of people laughing at me, but because deep down i just dont desire too. its unnatural. for me, anyway.

2005-07-17 [Solitiaum]: I know I am bi. I have had (and LOVED) relations with both sexes, and could quite happily continue to do so for the rest of my life.

2005-07-17 [iCh3wi]: I think if people feel comfortable with being bisexual, then it's ok. As long as they aren't doing it to fit in, like they are truely attracted to members of the same and opposite sex.

2005-07-17 [Whim]: Well, one of my points was that they sometimes experiment to begin with just to see what the fuss is about or something and then once they try it, they find out that it's possible for ANYONE to find comfort in ANYONE if they are willing to give it a shot.

2005-07-17 [iCh3wi]: Hmm........yes, that does sound right about the expierementation. Aren't most people who are gay now have to expeirement with homosexuality at one point to see whether or not it fit them? I think so.

2005-07-17 [Whim]: Well, yeah, but what I'm getting at is that some people become bisexual or homosexual not because they are bi or gay, but because they were willing to try it for whatever reason and sense the body does not care who is giving it attention, if the brain is somewhat willing, the entire person will enjoy the experience even if they aren't actually gay or bi.

2005-07-17 [iCh3wi]: Do you consider people who start dating members of the same sex because they can't find someone of the opposite sex purely gay, or is it just..............something else.

2005-07-17 [Whim]: if they do it out of desperation--which is what that sounds like--then they're probably not gay, they're just desperate.

2005-07-17 [iCh3wi]: Thats what is goin on with a bunch of people at my school I think. All of a sudden people pop up saying they are gay.